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For the 3rd time this month, Mark Leslie was mentioned in a conversation or presentation. The most recent was at TiE Boston’s Annual VC Outlook Dinner. Actually, mentioned, is way too soft. He was cited, praised, quoted, and otherwise venerated. Mark has a remarkable story. He took VERITAS from 12 employees and $95,000 in annual revenue to over 6,000 employees and $1.5B in revenue, before the company merged with Symantec on July 5, 2005.
I first met Mark, when I hosted IDC’s StorageVision conference in San Jose in May 2000, a year in which we recruited Steve Luczo, then CEO, and now Chairman of Seagate, and Joe Tucci, then the newly appointed President and COO of EMC. Mark wasn’t the best dressed (that was Joe) or most poised (that was Steve), but he gave, by far, the best talk. The talk that was discussed three times this month wasn’t, however, his StorageVision speech. That honor goes to this talk: “It Always Takes Longer and Costs More.” On Page 15 of the presentation, Mark begins a discussion of the Sales Learn Curve (SLC), which is the sales equivalent of the Manufacturing Learning Curve (MLC). The SLC is critical, Mark argues, to knowing when to step on the gas with sales.
Almost every company I’ve talked to measures the cost of sales. But where organizations differ is in the costs that are included in the cost of sales. Mark includes:
- Marketing
- Product management
- Product marketing
- Product support
- Sales engineering
- Sales
Some of these costs are more fixed than variable. Marketing, product management and product marketing don’t need to grow linearly with sales. Support, sales engineering, and sales costs are, however, more directly proportional to revenue.
Since more sales means that the fixed costs in the cost of sales calculation decline as a percent of sales, many startups are tempted to hit the gas early on deploying sales and sales engineering resources. But until they have gone through the iterative process of perfecting the sales process, this approach just burns cash. Instead, he stresses the importance of investing for learning in the early stages, making iterative improvements in the sales process. When the sales process is perfected, then, and only then, should a company put the “Pedal to the Metal,” making significant investments in sales and sales engineering.